The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? (now available)

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The last three months have been quite incredible. Since Tom McMahon (executive director of The Berean Call) first contacted me on April 29 about my ABI article critiquing The Harbinger, we have been on a speeding train just trying to hang on.

I am extremely grateful to the entire staff of The Berean Call who have been with me every step of the way since my book was little more than just the article. Everyone involved has put in a monumental effort to make everything come together in a such a short time frame. Roy Zuck (who has been in publishing for decades) recently described this as being “almost unheard of in publishing circles.”

This is even more amazing given the extensive scrutiny the book has undergone to make sure we get this right. The book has gone through multiple rounds of editing by three different editors and as well as three critical readers who carefully examined it for accuracy, theology, logical arguments and overall tone. And finally, it has been read by an additional six theologians and ministry leaders, who along with two of the critical readers, have provided a total of eight initial endorsements. Besides these things, they have designed the covers and formatted the book in about one-fourth of the time usually allotted.

The level of controversy surrounding The Harbinger and concerned reviews has been virtually unprecedented in that so much of it has been generated within conservative evangelicalism. Although other recent books have caused a stir within the broader evangelical community, some have said they have never witnessed anything quite like this in their decades of ministry life.

Everyone agrees that America is in deep spiritual trouble and that the country is now or soon could be under God’s judgment. Everyone also agrees with Jonathan Cahn’s overall message, which is a broad call for national repentance. However, the serious disagreements center on whether the author has genuinely received this message from God and whether he has indeed discovered an ancient mystery in Isaiah 9:10 that correlates precisely with events over the last decade in the United States, beginning with the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Those of us with deep concerns about the book are persuaded that he has not either case.

This is not simply an academic issue nor does it only involve inconsequential minutiae. The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? demonstrates that Cahn’s book is ultimately an illusion which gives the impression that God’s direct intervention is the only possible explanation for what is said to be the replay in America of events prophesied to Israel in Isaiah 9:10. As with any well-executed illusion, the audience is astounded by what they think they are seeing – but what they think they see does not actually correspond to reality. The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? pulls back the curtain and gives another “camera angle” so that the mechanics of the illusion become obvious.

This “reveal” shows that maintaining the illusion depends the mishandling of Scripture, faulty theology, misleading statements, the selective use of historical facts and unsupported speculation. Consequently, The Harbinger falls far short of the biblical requirements necessary to conclude that such a message is truly from God. The broad implications of this are significant and far-reaching.

I have written my book so that anyone can accurately, clearly and fairly understand what is in The Harbinger whether or not they have read that book. It should be helpful for those who wonder what all the commotion is about or who have been encouraged to read it by someone else. We also hope it will be helpful for those who have had reservations and concerns and for those who are not yet sure what to make of it. We are also hopeful that those who have embraced The Harbinger will take some time to read The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction and perhaps reconsider their views once they see there is another side to the whole issue.

The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?  is now available for ordering from The Berean Call website. The book is also listed on Amazon.com, however, it will be a couple of days before they receive a shipment.

It will also be available in Kindle format in about a week. In addition, I have finished recording the audio version of the book, which will probably be available shortly after The Berean Call annual conference next weekend. There has also been some discussion of possibly doing a Spanish version, including audio, but this has not yet been decided as far as I know.

I am looking forward to discussing the book with Jimmy DeYoung on his Saturday radio program (info at the Prophecy Today website). Brannon Howse has also invited Tom McMahon and me to join him for two full hours on his radio program on Monday and Tuesday beginning at 2:00 PM EST (1:00 CST) (www.worldviewweekend.com).

Next week I will be heading out to The Berean Call conference in Bend, Oregon. Tom McMahon has invited me to take one of his two sessions to discuss biblical discernment based on my book, using The Harbinger as a case study. We believe this is an important issue which needs to be addressed in a fair way. We also see it as a significant opportunity to help many believers as they think through how to consistently apply a biblical hermeneutic and carefully evaluate anything they might read or hear that purports to be a biblical message.

I want to sincerely thank all who have prayed for me and the entire process. We would also appreciate your ongoing prayers as we are unsure of what the overall reaction might be given the immense popularity and influence that has been enjoyed by The Harbinger and its author.

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ENDORSEMENTS

JIMMY DEYOUNG
President & Founder, Prophecy Today

“David James has done an excellent job in this book, a review of the book, The Harbinger, being very careful not to bring personality into focus but instead to take a critical look at the biblical aspects of the book. Having read the book a number of times, David studied the hermeneutic used in the book to examine the use of a single passage of scripture taken out of context to understand what the author had done to develop a fictional book while the same time telling the reader that everything in the book was real.

“I believe that David did the research required to give a fair look at Jonathan Cahn’s work and, at the same time, apply the age-old truths of Bible interpretation to help any potential reader of The Harbinger to be aware of the problems in this work. I know that David spent much time in prayer and consultation before he approached the writing of his review, and his only desire is to hold up the truth that we don’t get doctrine, or our understanding of Bible prophecy, from a fictional novel but from the Word of God, the Bible.”

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BRANNON HOWSE
President & Founder, Worldview Weekend

“All across America hundreds of thousands of people have purchased Jonathan Cahn’s book, The Harbinger. By far, the majority have given it rave reviews as well as promoted it, defended it, and recommended it to everyone they know. Unfortunately, this represents a pervasive lack of biblical knowledge and discernment in the church and is why many of us have written and broadcast our deep concerns about the book. I believe David James has used true discernment, extensive research, and biblical hermeneutics to reveal the dangerous message of The Harbinger. James’s research also defends the authority of Scripture against the increasing trend of experience, extra-biblical revelation and mysticism.”

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PAUL BARRECA
Teaching Pastor, Faith Bible Church
Vineland, New Jersey

“Whether or not you’ve read The Harbinger, you must read David James thorough and thoughtful response in The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? The popularity of Cahn’s book has many Christians wondering if the Bible contains a secret message for America enveloped in the details of the 9/11terrorist attacks. I recognized a dangerous hermeneutic at work in Jonathan Cahn’s fast-paced novel but was daunted by the challenge of providing a response for my congregation. David James provides such a response. This book gives the reader a detailed, point-by-point analysis challenging Cahn’s barrage of data and “connect the dot” attempts. David James does this with clear biblical methodology while avoiding personal attacks against Cahn. This book is an example of the way that Christian dialogue should be conducted.”

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ROY B. ZUCK
Senior Professor Emeritus of Bible Exposition
Editor, Bibliotheca Sacra
Dallas Theological Seminary

“Jonathan Cahn’s book The Harbinger has been a bestseller for many months. A messianic Jew, Cahn is the senior pastor of the Jerusalem/Beth Israel Worship Center in Wayne, New Jersey. The Harbinger presents the view that Isaiah 9:10-11 refers to the United States, and in particular to the catastrophe of 9/11 and the States’ subsequent economic problems. James masterfully demolishes Cahn’s efforts to relate this passage to the States, pointing up numerous hermeneutical and interpretive fallacies in Cahn’s approach. Anyone interested in The Harbinger needs to note the numerous errors in Cahn’s thinking, as presented in James’s excellent analysis.”

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GARY E. GILLEY
Senior Pastor, Southern View Chapel, Springfield, Illinois
Director, Think on These Things Ministries

“Jonathan Cahn’s, The Harbinger, is a warning to America that God’s judgment is imminent unless the country repents and turns to the Lord, and that very soon. If the book is read merely as a novel warning our country to wake up spiritually, it has value, but the author makes immediately clear that “what is contained within the story is real” (p. 7). In other words, Cahn believes that God pronounced exacting judgment on America, and that judgment is found in Scripture, specifically Isaiah 9:10-11.

“Cahn determines that this text in Isaiah contains a mysterious prophecy directed not to ancient Israel but to modern America. At this point the author massages Scripture, American history, and current events in an attempt to prove that God’s judgment on the United States has been hiding in these verses but have now been unlocked by the careful investigation of Cahn. Once someone decides they can cherry-pick verses at will, change the meaning of these texts to fit his theories, and use random hermeneutical methods, anything can be “proven.” However, very few people will recognize what Cahn has done, and fewer still will do the hard work of investigating his interpretations.

“Here is where David James has greatly benefited the body of Christ. He has carefully, graciously and thoroughly analyzed the claims found in The Harbinger and found many of them lacking biblical support and historical accuracy. James has written this book not merely to expose error but to keep God’s people from being led astray by false teachings and improper hermeneutical approaches to Scripture. I believe he has accomplished these goals in The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?”

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TOMMY ICE
Executive Director, Pre-Trib Research Center
Pastor/Teacher and Church Planter, Community Bible Church, Omaha, Nebraska

“Just because something is popular within today’s evangelical community does not mean that it is biblical. The Harbinger is a popular book for many within evangelicalism that claims to provide a message from God, but it is not built upon a true biblical foundation. Dave James provides a fair biblical analysis for anyone wanting scrutiny of The Harbinger. I commend James’s book, The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?, for those seeking the truth rather than popularity.”

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LARRY DEBRUYN
Guarding His Flock Ministries

 “In a fair and balanced way, Dave James exposes the eccentric biblical interpretations upon which The Harbinger is premised. He demonstrates biblical and theological inaccuracies contained in the story created by Jonathan Cahn, one which the author claims to be partially real. James connects the dots between multiple biblical, historical, and factual problems, which gives the reader the sense that The Harbinger has undertones of Anglo-Israelism and Christian Dominionism. Though perhaps not intended by the author, these concepts form an underlying philosophical framework upon which the theoretical “secret” of America’s future appears to be based. For readers possessing a heart to discern truth from error, The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? frames fundamental issues related to an accurate understanding of Bible prophecy in our modern world. Highly recommended.”
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LARRY J. WATERS
Associate Professor of Bible Exposition
Dallas Theological Seminary

“One of the most asked questions in biblical prophecy today is, “Where does the United States fit into eschatology?” Jonathan Cahn’s The Harbinger tries to answer that question—however, he attempts to do so with many unfounded hermeneutical “jumps” that cannot be sustained. Dave James goes to great lengths to debunk Cahn’s theories and offers a balanced look at end-time prophecy and the USA. Where Scripture is silent, it is best not to impose one’s own presumptions on the text. For those interested in this subject, James offers extensive objections to Cahn’s presumptions.”

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22 Comments
  1. Dave: I just finished reading your article. I want to hopefully be the first to express my greatest appreciation for your work in producing this important document(your book). We obviously have seen a tremendous wave of christians attracted to The Harbinger. I’ve read many reviews which are very subjective as Mr. McMahon said in his article a few months ago. Even though I am not a religious professional, I have no doubts that The Harbinger contains some elements of KABBALISTIC THEOLOGY. As you are well aware, I am a former member of Beth Israel. I am well aware of some of Mr. Cahn’s teachings and how the ZOHAR has played a major role in that aspect of his ministry. I want everyone who is reading my comments to be aware of this. What I am sharing briefly hear is not intended to SABOTAGE someone else’s ministry. It should serve as a warning to all. NOT EVERYTHING THAT GLITTERS IS GOLD! I highly endorse your book, and believe that it will be a beacon of light to expose these dangerous theological views which are detrimental to the body of Christ. I also believe your book will serve as a reference manual to help us all learn HOW TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH. THANK YOU & GOD BLESS YOU!

    • Thank you, Gabriel, for the kind and encouraging words.

      We are hopeful that the book will provide guidance in the practice of biblical discernment far beyond the immediate issue of The Harbinger, which is only symptomatic of a much broader and growing problem within evangelicalism.

      I believe every major issue in The Harbinger has been researched in depth and addressed in detail, of which the article represents only portion of what is in the book, including extensive documentation with over 250 endnotes, many of which are quotes from The Harbinger.

      Dave

  2. Why is it that so many Christians today seem to find it a foreign concept that this country was founded on the word of God?? Look at the coat of arms of Puerto Rico. At its center is the Bible.
    Look at the US capitol dome Whose statue is atop it? Christopher Columbus. The fact that George
    Washington dedicated this fledgling nation to God on his knees in a chapel in Manhatton, and thhe first congress agreed in this exercise of faith is no small matter. Our aim as Christians should be to re-establish this fact about ourselves as a nation, the comments of the present occupier of the oval office to the contrary notwithstanding.

    • David,

      Thanks for taking the time to comment. I trust you took time to read this article and the preceding one on The Harbinger.

      The reason is that there is significant evidence, in fact overwhelming, that the god of Free Masonry, not the God of the Bible, was most likely the deity in view by the Founding Fathers (although certainly not the Puritans and Pilgrims).

      Did you realize that Washington was inaugurated in the context of a Masonic ceremony in the presence of a Masonic Grand Master, and swore his oath of office on the Masonic Bible of the St. John’s Lodge No. 1 of NYC? Also, the procession to St. Paul’s was a Masonic procession – which has been historically re-enacted?

      Did you realize that Washington, functioning as a Acting Masonic Grand Master, laid the cornerstone of the Capitol building?

      That the painting on the inside of the Capitol dome is called “The Apotheosis of Washington” which means “Washington becoming a god?”

      That Washington was buried with full Masonic rights?

      That 9-16% of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons, as were 13-33% of the signers of the Constitution and 33-46% of the generals of the Continental Army?

      Of course, none of this means that the United States should not turn to God – but that won’t happen as a nation – it can only happen in individual hearts as they turn to Jesus Christ in faith. No other country can be a theocracy because no other nation is in covenant with God – and because a theocracy requires that the earthly king must be a regent of God, ruling with absolute spiritual and civil authority – which means that the America could no longer function as a republic with representative government. Our only hope is to evangelize and teach people the Word of God – but we know that there are few that find the narrow road. But as with Nineveh, we could possibly forestall the inevitable judgment to come.

      Dave

  3. I’ve been receiving literature from Jonathan Cahn’s ministry for over 20 years. Based on what I’ve read, there is nothing in his teachings that bears any resemblance to the accusations made. For example, Cahn does not believe the church has replaced Israel or that the U.S. is the New Israel. He is neither postmillennial nor amillennial, but premillennial. Moreover, he is a messianic Jew. Find me a messianic Jew who believes the church replaced Israel and I’ll find you a Dallas Seminary professor who worships tree spirits.

    There’s really no excuse for such accusations, since anyone’s teachings, including Cahn’s, can be readily discerned by a simple Google search.

    • Jack,

      Thanks for taking the time to comment.

      I am very familiar with Jonathan Cahn’s theology – and I have known that he is premillennial almost from the beginning.

      I deal with the issue you raise extensively in my book – which lays the foundation for my position. After hundreds of hours of research and writing, I have thoroughly documented and supported everything I have written – which I stand behind.

      Dave

  4. Dave,

    I will read more of what you have to say, but my first impression is that the only theological difference between you and Cahn is that you think like a Dallas seminarian and Cahn thinks like Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel or like Greg Laurie and Harvest Christian Fellowship. While there are differences (Dallas is non-charismatic while the other two are mildly charismatic), all three accept a historical-grammatical view of Scripture and avoid all of the major doctrinal errors of our time.

    Jack

    • Jack,

      Thanks, again for your input. I would say that your analysis of theological differences that might exist between Cahn and myself is a fair summary in general.

      At issue isn’t his overall theology, however, it is what he has written specifically in The Harbinger. In my analysis I don’t stray too far from that except in the area of prophecy and the area of mysticism – which I delve into deeper because there are elements in The Harbinger and interviews which suggested there may be further issues, so I researched them – with the result being a chapter connected to each in my book. The other issues are directly problems in The Harbinger where he has variously overstated his case, engaged in speculation, selectively used historical facts, used misguided logic and established correlations that just don’t exist.

      Going back to your previous comment – exactly what accusations have I made for which there is no excuse? If you are inclined to read my book, you will find that I have carefully documented everything.

  5. Note to Gabriel,

    You say you were a part of Cahn’s ministry, yet you claim that he centered his teaching on the Zohar. As I have been receiving literature from his ministry since the early 1990s and have seen no such evidence from it, perhaps you can furnish proof of your charge. I’m always on the lookout for doctrinal errors of that nature, but mere accusations of such errors aren’t enough.

    Note to Dave,

    Accusing any professed Christian of basing his teaching on the Zohar is a pretty serious thing. The Zohar is about as far from the Gospel as the serpent in the Garden is from the Word of God. Yet you allowed Gabriel to make the charge without questioning him.

    Now when it comes to the Zohar, plenty of Christian missions to the Jews have pointed to pluralistic conceptions of God within it in order to refute the current Jewish view that their history has no room for the Trinity. There’s nothing wrong with such a strategy. It doesn’t mean the person who points this out is endorsing the Zohar. Rather, it is standard apologetics to seek to convince a person of the truth of the Gospel by showing evidence for it buried within their own writings or culture. Missionaries throughout the world have pointed native peoples to the fact that within their own culture, beyond their belief in many gods was a prior belief in one God who once was with them but left their presence long ago.

    • Jack,

      I think one of us misunderstood what Gabriel said about the Zohar. I didn’t take Gabriel’s statement to mean that it formed a significant part of Cahn’s entire teaching ministry, but was more focused on The Harbinger specifically. So, I wasn’t intentionally just letting a wild statement that can’t be supported go unchallenged. But perhaps I misunderstood.

      If you look at all of Cahn’s messages available on the Internet, the titles indicate that he spends a huge amount of time – perhaps most – dealing with “mysteries” of this or that – much of which is extra-biblical.

      I agree with the idea of a “hostile witness” – but he goes far beyond that – and this ultimately led him to get carried away on his message concerning Golgotha in the Zohar. He apparently realized this because the video of that segment was pulled down by him or his ministry within the last few weeks and replaced with another one.

      And yes, I have read Eternity in Their Hearts, so I am aware of the persistent world-wide witness to the one true God. I have no problem with that – but his use of the Zohar was beyond that. In fact he states specifically in that message he essentially states that God actually inspired the rabbis to write what they did about the place of the skull.

      Again, this is well-documented in my book which goes far beyond the limits of a short article.

  6. Dave,

    For starters, there was “no excuse” for anyone accusing Cahn of embracing replacement theology. The fact that Cahn juxtaposed ancient Israel with modern America tells us nothing about his view of Israel and the church. To assume otherwise is to jump the proverbial gun. Ironically, it’s exactly what we rightly accuse Bible skeptics of doing. Skeptics of the Bible violate the common-sense rules of evidence concerning textual analysis by turning burden of proof on its head. The normative rule is to assume the best about a particular writing until proven otherwise. If there is an apparent contradiction or error, the default position is to try our best to reconcile the contradiction, or to read the author’s other writings, with the same basic stance of fairness in mind. Only when we’ve exhausted the other alternatives should we conclude the worst about what a writer is saying.

    Jack

    • Jack,

      I don’t know how long you’ve been following this, but I have been working on this, writing and talking about The Harbinger from the week of its release. No one accused Cahn, as best I can recall, of traditional replacement theology. In our first interview, Jimmy DeYoung only raised the question – to which I replied that (as best I recall) that my very first thoughts were to wonder if this might be the case, but then I realized that it was not. I also said that the question of Anglo-Israelism was in my mind early on – but as I got further into the book I also realized that this was not in the book – although the juxtaposition and language of covenant in the context of the founders raised that question. However, although the book does not at all include traditional replacement theology, it does give the impression that America has been elevated to a position as a nation very close to that of Israel. That is a type of replacement theology and it is so strongly evident in the book that Mormon historians are citing The Harbinger, including in major conferences, as a book that supports their Anglo-Israelism view – so I’m not just making this up. You can see this all laid out and documented very clearly in my book.

      I went into this with a completely blank piece of paper. Any impressions I have came solely from the book and things that Cahn has said. I wasn’t even getting ideas from other critics because we were ahead of the curve on this and there were very few others doing much of anything until several months into it.

      So, I am more than willing to apologize for anything that has been written or said for which there is “no excuse” and that we have done wrongly. I’m not sure when you first began to be engaged in dealing with the criticisms, but if you haven’t closely followed this from the beginning and listened to all the interviews, but are going on what others are saying, that is hearsay and should probably consider whether you might be guilty of the very thing of which you have charged us.

      Dave

  7. Dave,

    I have not been following this from the beginning, but I’ve since gotten up to speed enough to understand the basic contours of what has happened. Again, based on everything I know about Cahn and his ministry, what Cahn’s critics have painted is a portrait that bears little resemblance to either.

    I’m glad you agree that Cahn is not teaching replacement theology; were he doing so, I would have told his ministry to remove me from the mailing list immediately. And I disagree that to draw parallels between Israel and America is anything like a stealth form of replacement theology. Looking at American history, I’ve always been struck by the obvious connections between this country and ancient Israel…..they’re impossible to miss. But I have never concluded from those connections that America has replaced Israel, nor have most other American Christians who see the same thing. America has not replaced Israel. America is not the New Israel. America is not the second Israel. But it’s as clear as a bell that, starting with the Puritans and Pilgrims, America chose to initiate a covenant with God, and that God appears to have honored that covenant in unmistakable ways. If you study American history, that conclusion is very difficult to avoid.

    That’s not the same as saying that God initiated a covenant with America. That would be an extrabiblical statement and a problematic one. But people and nations can make vows unto the Lord. The fact is that this is what America’s forerunners did; and it’s something that subsequent generations of leaders reaffirmed. They saw themselves as in a special relationship with God.

    And by any normal reckoning, God appears to have honored that. Even the deist-leaning leaders among the Founders and Framers expressed over and over again the view that Providence seemed to smile down on America. They even had a strong and otherwise inexplicable confidence, in the darkest days of the Revolution, that America would not only prevail, but would go on to fulfill a tremendous destiny. That is exactly what happened, and the question we all must answer is how in the world they knew that ahead of time, unless God found a way to impart that to them.

    So when I read the Harbinger for the first time, I saw nothing amiss in the discussion about the parallels between America and Israel. Cahn was simply stating what I’ve always known to be true, and what tens of millions of other Christians believe as a matter of course. There is something very special about the relationship between God and America. Again, it’s not the same as the one between God and the Jews. But whatever it is, it is powerful, striking, and unmistakable.

    Sometimes, in our zeal to protect doctrines that matter greatly, we end up excluding far too much…..we end up putting fences around fences. We become so zealous for detecting error, we forget that the purpose of uncovering errors is to get at the truth. If we end up going beyond that, truth becomes the casualty.

    Jack

    • Jack,

      I agree with virtually everything you have said to a large degree – and don’t contradict that in my book, nor have I in any interviews.

      I have long said that God has blessed America in incredible ways – which as a veteran missionary of 16 years in Hungary, I see as largely connected to America’s role in providing freedom of religion to Christians here and a missions and evangelistic zeal both hear and abroad.

      However, as I document in my book, Cahn has either wittingly or unwittingly gone far beyond this. The way he has chosen to express his views, if not reflective of his actual views is very unfortunate. I have stayed on top of most reviews of The Harbinger, including the over 700 comments on Amazon.com – the common theme that appears over and over again in the majority of criticisms of the book is exactly what I have said in this regard.

      What I have pointed out is that Cahn has contributed to the confusion to the degree that his critics (about 10% of the reviews on Amazon give him a 1-star rating) all see him saying the same thing – and as I noted, Mormons are using his book for support. This is problematic and needs to be acknowledged by Cahn. The only reason that more people don’t criticize TH on this count is because they don’t see it as problematic, not because they don’t see it.

      As I note in my book, if I had written a book that explains Christology in such a way that Mormons were appealing to my book to support their heretical views of Jesus, then the onus would be upon me to not simply deny this is what I meant – but I would need to acknowledge that this was a legitimate perception because of what I had written and take steps to correct this. Cahn has done neither, but rather has only dug his heels in further and doubled down. This is troubling.

      The problems that I have seen in TH were not the result of a “witch hunt” – they literally jump off the page – and it’s not just me – a good number of other very good theologians have *independently* seen exactly the same thing. The only way so many could independently see the same things cannot be sheer coincidence – there are clear and objective reasons – even though you disagree with the conclusions.

      Unfortunately, Cahn became so zealous for establishing contemporary connections with Isaiah 9:10 that he went far further than the facts support – and truth became the casualty. So much so, that for the last 8 months Cahn has been trying to explain what he means because his book paints a different picture.

      Dave

  8. Thanks Dave for your diligence and research to counter a very popular wave of thinking here in the minds of American Christians right now. I normally read things and put them in the back of my mind if I don’t agree with them but Cahn’s book was on a different level entirely. After hearing some of my church members and even family reference the book, I wanted to see what it was all about. Now, after reading it thoroughly, I realize the proponents of this book and ideology have gotten swept up in something far from Biblical. I fear that with End Times scenarios, the first mistake is to assume it is all about us and go looking for clues to fit into that era in any way possible. I appreciate your efforts to correct this trend and get things back to a proper Biblical basis. Bless you brother!

    • Thanks, Scott.

      If you get a chance it would be great if you could read my book and post a review on Amazon. We are really hopeful that we can help many believers who have been misled by The Harbinger.

      One thing that has been a common thread with much of the criticism we have received is the amount of vitriol that has been unleashed. I expected some opposition, but this has been a bit over-the-top.

      Feel free to stay in touch.

      Blessings,
      Dave

  9. Dave, just FYI – Eric Douma has also spoken out on the Harbinger. He mentions Cahn’s response to you.

    http://www.twincityfellowship.com/sermons-sunday-school/sermon/2012-09-23/can-the-bible-ever-mean-what-it-never-meant—case-study:-the-harbinger

  10. I do not know how is the issue of a lawsuit against you at present. Anyway, I do not think Cahn or Charisma will go forth with that, because that would give a bad note to them, since it is anti-Biblical (1 Cor 6), no matter how much legal support they may have, and also it could give the impression that they do not stand criticism. Whatever the situation, my prayers are with you and TBC.

    • Hi Toni,

      There was never a lawsuit, only the threat of one. We are hopeful that they will realize that there is no basis for a lawsuit, whether biblically, morally, ethically or legally and just let it go. Every legitimate critique and critical review demands quoting original source material otherwise charges of misrepresentation, taking out of context, being unfair, etc. are leveled just as quickly. And of course, the courts have consistently held up the fair use doctrine, and my book easily meets all the tests, which are especially favorable to critical reviews in the interest of fairness.

      Thank you for your encouragement and prayers.
      Dave

  11. Very interesting take on Harbinger. I haven’t read the book, but have followed its progress on WND. I would like to ask if you have heard of Joel Richardson who has written two books titled, Islamic Antichrist and Mideast Beast. One of Richardson’s beliefs is that Daniel’s 4th beast (7:7) is not a revived Roman Empire, rather the Ottoman Caliphate, which turned out to be the seventh head in Rev. 17:10 and will be restored.

    I would appreciate any comments you might have. Thanks

    • Hi Jim,

      Thanks for taking the time to read my article and comment.

      Yes, I am aware of Richardson’s book, but I’ve not looked at it. I do know that there are other very solid prophecy teachers who think it is unlikely to impossible that the Antichrist will be Islamic. There are also some arguments in favor of this, but I just haven’t studied it out – although I need to. (Just not enough hours in the day to keep up with so much going on in the world.)

      Thanks, again.
      Dave

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